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> <channel><title>Comments on: We don&#8217;t intend to pay for the crisis!</title> <atom:link href="http://www.nostate.com/1129/we-dont-intend-to-pay-for-the-crisis/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.nostate.com/1129/we-dont-intend-to-pay-for-the-crisis/</link> <description>ACCESS ALL AREAS</description> <lastBuildDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 09:39:04 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: Mike Gogulski</title><link>http://www.nostate.com/1129/we-dont-intend-to-pay-for-the-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-1435</link> <dc:creator>Mike Gogulski</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 01:03:10 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.nostate.com/?p=1129#comment-1435</guid> <description>Not condescending. Important. No idea, here, who they are yet -- a couple of contact attempts have yielded no response to date.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not condescending. Important. No idea, here, who they are yet &#8212; a couple of contact attempts have yielded no response to date.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Royce Christian</title><link>http://www.nostate.com/1129/we-dont-intend-to-pay-for-the-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-1434</link> <dc:creator>Royce Christian</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 01:01:24 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.nostate.com/?p=1129#comment-1434</guid> <description>I apologise if it seemed condescending.  I just wanted to be sure; I&#039;ve ventured into hostile territory many times.  These are pretty generally the lessons I learned.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I apologise if it seemed condescending.  I just wanted to be sure; I&#8217;ve ventured into hostile territory many times.  These are pretty generally the lessons I learned.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mike Gogulski</title><link>http://www.nostate.com/1129/we-dont-intend-to-pay-for-the-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-1389</link> <dc:creator>Mike Gogulski</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:02:39 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.nostate.com/?p=1129#comment-1389</guid> <description>Agreement from my side on 100% of this, Royce. Thanks nonetheless for the reminders.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreement from my side on 100% of this, Royce. Thanks nonetheless for the reminders.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Royce Christian</title><link>http://www.nostate.com/1129/we-dont-intend-to-pay-for-the-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-1248</link> <dc:creator>Royce Christian</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 03:33:26 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.nostate.com/?p=1129#comment-1248</guid> <description>A word of advice, be careful.  It&#039;s a great thing to network/argue/share with these people.  But you need to expect some level of hostility particularly if they are familiar with the term &#039;Anarcho-Capitalism.&#039; They will jump at you.
The one thing I learned (the hard way) is you need to drop any jargon that&#039;s remotely Anarcho-Capitalist.  The AnCap jargon is heavily influenced by economics (pretty obvious), and while you&#039;ll probably find that you and the Syndicalists are pretty much against the same things though propose slightly different solutions, your terminology will conflict will theirs.  This is what&#039;s created the schism between the different strains in Anarchism, after all.
Secondly, if it does come up you need to highlight that while Agorism is influenced by Anarcho-Capitalism, they are not the same thing.  Agorism takes the best of Rothbard, and does it better than Anarcho-Capitalism. Also, you can point out that Agorism shares a great deal in common with Mutualism, so it&#039;s a good idea to have some resources to back this up. It&#039;s also a good idea to stress that counter economics is another incarnation of the Anarchist concept of, &quot;creating a new world within the shell of the old.&quot;  Systemic, mutual aid, guided towards killing people&#039;s dependency on government, (so long as they don&#039;t agress upon another) is essentially counter economics with a syndicalist spin and another way to put it.
Lastly, by meeting these people, you need to make sure that you&#039;re not trying to convert them to your views by using Agorism as a watershed.  That&#039;s just downright insulting, to both Syndicalists and Agorists.
Though, if y&#039;all get together and kick-start some kind of counter economic revolt, I might just have to move.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A word of advice, be careful.  It&#8217;s a great thing to network/argue/share with these people.  But you need to expect some level of hostility particularly if they are familiar with the term &#8216;Anarcho-Capitalism.&#8217; They will jump at you.</p><p>The one thing I learned (the hard way) is you need to drop any jargon that&#8217;s remotely Anarcho-Capitalist.  The AnCap jargon is heavily influenced by economics (pretty obvious), and while you&#8217;ll probably find that you and the Syndicalists are pretty much against the same things though propose slightly different solutions, your terminology will conflict will theirs.  This is what&#8217;s created the schism between the different strains in Anarchism, after all.</p><p>Secondly, if it does come up you need to highlight that while Agorism is influenced by Anarcho-Capitalism, they are not the same thing.  Agorism takes the best of Rothbard, and does it better than Anarcho-Capitalism. Also, you can point out that Agorism shares a great deal in common with Mutualism, so it&#8217;s a good idea to have some resources to back this up. It&#8217;s also a good idea to stress that counter economics is another incarnation of the Anarchist concept of, &#8220;creating a new world within the shell of the old.&#8221;  Systemic, mutual aid, guided towards killing people&#8217;s dependency on government, (so long as they don&#8217;t agress upon another) is essentially counter economics with a syndicalist spin and another way to put it.</p><p>Lastly, by meeting these people, you need to make sure that you&#8217;re not trying to convert them to your views by using Agorism as a watershed.  That&#8217;s just downright insulting, to both Syndicalists and Agorists.</p><p>Though, if y&#8217;all get together and kick-start some kind of counter economic revolt, I might just have to move.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Aaron Kinney</title><link>http://www.nostate.com/1129/we-dont-intend-to-pay-for-the-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-1247</link> <dc:creator>Aaron Kinney</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 00:49:39 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.nostate.com/?p=1129#comment-1247</guid> <description>Individualists, UNITE!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Individualists, UNITE!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mike Gogulski</title><link>http://www.nostate.com/1129/we-dont-intend-to-pay-for-the-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-1246</link> <dc:creator>Mike Gogulski</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 18:32:56 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.nostate.com/?p=1129#comment-1246</guid> <description>This is not my text, I just translated it from the Slovak website of this anarcho-syndicalist group active here and in the Czech Republic.
Some STR editors track my site, though, and are of course welcome to pick it up and run it if they think it merits attention.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is not my text, I just translated it from the Slovak website of this anarcho-syndicalist group active here and in the Czech Republic.</p><p>Some STR editors track my site, though, and are of course welcome to pick it up and run it if they think it merits attention.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: brmerrick</title><link>http://www.nostate.com/1129/we-dont-intend-to-pay-for-the-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-1245</link> <dc:creator>brmerrick</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 18:31:23 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.nostate.com/?p=1129#comment-1245</guid> <description>Mike, this is an excellent idea.  In fact, it may be one of the greatest ideas of all time.  Do you have any intention of writing up something similar for STR or LewRockwell?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, this is an excellent idea.  In fact, it may be one of the greatest ideas of all time.  Do you have any intention of writing up something similar for STR or LewRockwell?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mike Gogulski</title><link>http://www.nostate.com/1129/we-dont-intend-to-pay-for-the-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-1242</link> <dc:creator>Mike Gogulski</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 13:38:03 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.nostate.com/?p=1129#comment-1242</guid> <description>I&#039;m trying on a much broader view here, Cork. I&#039;m looking at this as an opportunity to network with people who may be receptive to an agorist approach, regardless of their underlying philosophy. I have no idea what to expect.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m trying on a much broader view here, Cork. I&#8217;m looking at this as an opportunity to network with people who may be receptive to an agorist approach, regardless of their underlying philosophy. I have no idea what to expect.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Cork</title><link>http://www.nostate.com/1129/we-dont-intend-to-pay-for-the-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-1237</link> <dc:creator>Cork</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 06:13:48 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.nostate.com/?p=1129#comment-1237</guid> <description>I kid, of course.  I don&#039;t really believe they&#039;re the human equivalent of cockroaches.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I kid, of course.  I don&#8217;t really believe they&#8217;re the human equivalent of cockroaches.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Cork</title><link>http://www.nostate.com/1129/we-dont-intend-to-pay-for-the-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-1236</link> <dc:creator>Cork</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 06:12:34 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.nostate.com/?p=1129#comment-1236</guid> <description>Good old loveable ansynds.  At least they try.
Sometimes, the pest spray simply does not deter them.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good old loveable ansynds.  At least they try.</p><p>Sometimes, the pest spray simply does not deter them.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
