Comments on: The penalty is always death http://www.nostate.com/116/the-penalty-is-always-death/ ACCESS ALL AREAS Thu, 09 Feb 2012 09:39:04 +0000 hourly 1 By: Mike Gogulskihttp://www.nostate.com/116/the-penalty-is-always-death/comment-page-2/#comment-53338 Mike Gogulski Sun, 05 Jun 2011 00:14:46 +0000 http://www.nostate.com/?p=116#comment-53338 @Loke: I say: try it and see. Just because you can't see the gun doesn't mean it's not there. @Loke: I say: try it and see. Just because you can’t see the gun doesn’t mean it’s not there.

]]> By: LokeRundthttp://www.nostate.com/116/the-penalty-is-always-death/comment-page-2/#comment-53315 LokeRundt Sat, 04 Jun 2011 21:15:36 +0000 http://www.nostate.com/?p=116#comment-53315 So what do you say then about States like Norway, where the police are not allowed to kill you (they do not carry firearms and are trained to disable/subdue without injury), prison terms are short (22 years is the maximum term you can serve), and the State enrolls you in (and pays you for) job training, therapy, anger-management etc. What happens to the argument about taxes and all, when there is actually no gun in the room? (In fact, private citizens are allowed to posses firearms, and the police are not) So what do you say then about States like Norway, where the police are not allowed to kill you (they do not carry firearms and are trained to disable/subdue without injury), prison terms are short (22 years is the maximum term you can serve), and the State enrolls you in (and pays you for) job training, therapy, anger-management etc.

What happens to the argument about taxes and all, when there is actually no gun in the room? (In fact, private citizens are allowed to posses firearms, and the police are not)

]]> By: Blagnet.net » Yes, it is absolute, and no, it is not debatablehttp://www.nostate.com/116/the-penalty-is-always-death/comment-page-2/#comment-35988 Blagnet.net » Yes, it is absolute, and no, it is not debatable Thu, 09 Dec 2010 19:35:15 +0000 http://www.nostate.com/?p=116#comment-35988 [...] liberty should be absolute, what they are really saying is that they have the right to use the violent, deadly police power of the State to restrict what we do with our minds, bodies, and property, and that not only do we not have a [...] [...] liberty should be absolute, what they are really saying is that they have the right to use the violent, deadly police power of the State to restrict what we do with our minds, bodies, and property, and that not only do we not have a [...]

]]> By: Roninhttp://www.nostate.com/116/the-penalty-is-always-death/comment-page-2/#comment-31902 Ronin Sun, 14 Nov 2010 09:56:12 +0000 http://www.nostate.com/?p=116#comment-31902 Can't we all just play nice and get along like in kindergarten? The answer is NO! The bullys have always ruled the schoolyard, and now they are government goons who lord it over the people who just want to live in privacy and peace. So, get out of the schoolyard! Go for a walkabout. Can’t we all just play nice and get along like in kindergarten? The answer is NO! The bullys have always ruled the schoolyard, and now they are government goons who lord it over the people who just want to live in privacy and peace. So, get out of the schoolyard! Go for a walkabout.

]]> By: obyhttp://www.nostate.com/116/the-penalty-is-always-death/comment-page-2/#comment-10769 oby Wed, 18 Aug 2010 04:30:03 +0000 http://www.nostate.com/?p=116#comment-10769 this site and the points of many cannabis smokers are very similar. a guy smokes some reefer his nabor calls the cops he get arrested gos through the same shit that bob went through and in the end he has done no harm to any one. but the state now has him in prison and a shit ton of fines. this site and the points of many cannabis smokers are very similar. a guy smokes some reefer his nabor calls the cops he get arrested gos through the same shit that bob went through and in the end he has done no harm to any one. but the state now has him in prison and a shit ton of fines.

]]> By: magiclifehttp://www.nostate.com/116/the-penalty-is-always-death/comment-page-2/#comment-10380 magiclife Wed, 28 Jul 2010 12:19:43 +0000 http://www.nostate.com/?p=116#comment-10380 The crime is to make up shit laws like that, and the state(s) do it all the time. And no matter how silly the law is, they enforce them. "They" being the minions. In this case I think Bob would probably just get fined multiple times, not pay it, not be able to get his vehicle inspected because of database cross-referencing (so much for the internet being a tool of freedom), go bankrupt, lose his business, his family, his sanity (according to popular sanity norms) and either kill himself or take off into the wilderness (which actually can't be found any longer). So he'd have to become one of those registered homeless people who gets your tax money. Regardless, the state is wrong and always has been wrong. I mean hell, in my "home" town, you are not allowed to pay a parking ticket in person while wearing cologne or perfume. And it has to be a money order, no checks. The crime is to make up shit laws like that, and the state(s) do it all the time. And no matter how silly the law is, they enforce them. “They” being the minions. In this case I think Bob would probably just get fined multiple times, not pay it, not be able to get his vehicle inspected because of database cross-referencing (so much for the internet being a tool of freedom), go bankrupt, lose his business, his family, his sanity (according to popular sanity norms) and either kill himself or take off into the wilderness (which actually can’t be found any longer). So he’d have to become one of those registered homeless people who gets your tax money.

Regardless, the state is wrong and always has been wrong. I mean hell, in my “home” town, you are not allowed to pay a parking ticket in person while wearing cologne or perfume. And it has to be a money order, no checks.

]]> By: Militant Libertarian » Who kills your freedom?http://www.nostate.com/116/the-penalty-is-always-death/comment-page-2/#comment-9599 Militant Libertarian » Who kills your freedom? Wed, 30 Jun 2010 03:21:07 +0000 http://www.nostate.com/?p=116#comment-9599 [...] may raise the costs, and may put every stumbling block possible in your way.  It will threaten you if you dare take responsibility for your own life, against its wishes and “laws“.  You [...] [...] may raise the costs, and may put every stumbling block possible in your way.  It will threaten you if you dare take responsibility for your own life, against its wishes and “laws“.  You [...]

]]> By: Militant Libertarian » Authoritarianism attracts the worst of humanityhttp://www.nostate.com/116/the-penalty-is-always-death/comment-page-1/#comment-8139 Militant Libertarian » Authoritarianism attracts the worst of humanity Mon, 26 Apr 2010 12:07:40 +0000 http://www.nostate.com/?p=116#comment-8139 [...] themselves honestly.  They discover it is easier to order other people around, and kidnap or kill them if they are uncooperative, than it is to do something themselves if they think it is worth doing.  [...] [...] themselves honestly.  They discover it is easier to order other people around, and kidnap or kill them if they are uncooperative, than it is to do something themselves if they think it is worth doing.  [...]

]]> By: State sanctioned killing - Club3G Forumshttp://www.nostate.com/116/the-penalty-is-always-death/comment-page-1/#comment-7999 State sanctioned killing - Club3G Forums Fri, 23 Apr 2010 00:28:26 +0000 http://www.nostate.com/?p=116#comment-7999 [...] The penalty is ALWAYS death. [...] [...] The penalty is ALWAYS death. [...]

]]> By: reboot the republic » Using What You Pay For- Paying For What You Usehttp://www.nostate.com/116/the-penalty-is-always-death/comment-page-1/#comment-7352 reboot the republic » Using What You Pay For- Paying For What You Use Tue, 30 Mar 2010 21:26:07 +0000 http://www.nostate.com/?p=116#comment-7352 [...] in many (or most) cases I think they are even abusive. However, as long as you are being forced, at gunpoint, to pay for these schools, it is your choice to use them with a clear conscience. Until you notice [...] [...] in many (or most) cases I think they are even abusive. However, as long as you are being forced, at gunpoint, to pay for these schools, it is your choice to use them with a clear conscience. Until you notice [...]

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