Certificate of Loss of Nationality; Canceled US passport
31 December 2008 by Mike GogulskiPosted in diary | 26 Comments »
I visited the embassy today in response to the call I received yesterday. I was given a Certificate of Loss of Nationality of the United States (DS-4083), for which I signed a receipt.
I also received my US passport back, surprisingly. It has been canceled by punching four holes through all the pages. A notation is made on the last page saying, “Bearer expatriated self on Dec. 8, 2008 under provisions of INA 349(a)(5).”
The staffers suggested that the canceled passport may be of use to me in proving my identity to the Slovak authorities until and in the process of obtaining my stateless person’s identity documents. Works for me, another tool in the bag.
So, it’s really real. I’m a stateless person.
Enjoy the images. Click through for full-sized scans (2-2.5MB each).
My Certificate of Loss of Nationality of the United States, DS-4083
The data page of my freshly-canceled US passport
The last page of my canceled passport
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26 Responses to “Certificate of Loss of Nationality; Canceled US passport”
By OracleGD on 31 December 2008
You just fucking won.
By DixieFlatline on 31 December 2008
No. Mike has just begun to fight.
By Seth on 31 December 2008
Was there any point during the renunciation process where you were required to furnish an SSN (Slave Surveillance Number)?
By SW on 31 December 2008
I am REALLY curious to see how you get on when you *try* to travel…especially overseas!
This is most fascinating.
Maybe a World Passport?
By Mike Gogulski on 31 December 2008
@Dixie: Indeed.
@Seth: The IRS Form 8854 required it, though I don’t know if this form is truly a legal requirement to renounce.
@SW: I’ll be applying for a 1954 Convention Travel Document. After that, leaving the Schengen area will require me to apply for visa in advance, unless I obtain another citizenship.
By Ethan Lee Vita on 1 January 2009
I find it interesting and peculiar that your last name was in all caps, but not the rest of your name, nor any part of the other person’s name.
By SW on 1 January 2009
Be sure to post a pic of the 1954 Convention Travel Document!
By Jim Davidson on 2 January 2009
Congratulations on accomplishing this goal. You are now a sovereign individual. The power over you is…you!
By Mike Gogulski on 2 January 2009
@Jim: I’m something alright… we’ll see just how this turns out over time
@SW: Of course…
@Ethan: Far as I know, the capitalization is irrelevant, despite the deranged mumblings of any number of people.
By Ethan Lee Vita on 3 January 2009
I would agree or at least I haven’t gone completely off the deep end.
Albeit, I haven’t spent much time looking into it either.
I was just pointing out the inconsistency of it though. Instead of your whole name, it was just the last name. And instead of both of your names, it was just your name.
By alex on 7 January 2009
did they also punch through your slovak visa? they shouldn’t have done this. it remains valid even when the passport isn’t anymore. if they did you might run into problems with the slovaks.
By Mike Gogulski on 8 January 2009
@Ethan: I will grant you your “interesting”, and leave it at that
@Alex: Yes, they punched through all pages in roughly the same places, and my Slovak visa has been punched through in four locations along the line which bears the machine-readable identification data. I really don’t, however, believe that this will present greater problems for me than not having any passport plus visa combination at all.
By Brice on 23 May 2009
Notice how your paper lists the “Province or County” as “Arizona” and the “State” as “U.S.A”.
Very Interesting…
By billdave on 25 June 2009
Man that’s so cool. i bet every international checkpoint will respect your integrity for renouncing your privileges! I bet that will show all the first world fucks how stateless you are! Did you give away all your American money too? That will really show the bastards! If only you could give away your whiteness too, that would show them! You are changing the world! You rock!
By Mike Gogulski on 25 June 2009
@billdave: Your snark has been noted in your permanent file. Have a nice day.
By D on 25 June 2009
A Slovak with a Polish name born in the US: no wonder you’re confused. I bet you speak Czech too. Or is your home language Hungarian?
By Matthew on 26 June 2009
what in the world? how does one go about doing this?
By Sean on 27 June 2009
Mike, as awesome as this is, I’d really suggest that you put some kind of watermark across those images. Not for the purposes of real identity theft, but 419 scammers scower the net to find passport scans like these to use as a convincer via email, so don’t be suprised if “Mike Gogulksi” turns up in someone’s inbox on behalf of the Bank of Nigeria!
By Mike Gogulski on 27 June 2009
@Sean: I’m trying hard to find a reason to worry about the scenario you mention, but have failed thus far.
By KI4GSZ on 28 June 2009
Mike, I would like to converse with you off this forum re: your epic win. Please send me a quick line how I might contact you to my email
ki4gsz@gmail.com.
I think what you have done is the first sign of hope I have had in some time & I hope to follow your footsteps (not to Slovakia however) & do a disappearing act from this land of little liberties & government control.
Hope to hear from you soon.
By X on 30 July 2009
@Ethan Lee Vita: The family name is in capitals to distinguish it from given names: This differentiates from, say, Hungarian names, where the family name is first.
By x-citizen on 24 September 2009
If you would like a really open discussion, I would suggest you allow anonymous posts (possibly redirected through tor or a similar service).
By Mike Gogulski on 24 September 2009
@x-citizen: All right, I’ve disabled the “must fill out name and email” thing. Let’s see how that works.
Incidentally, lots of folks who want to be anonymous with respect to the site just fill in a bunk email address… as you did
By Jeremy on 29 September 2009
I’m not sure how you got on that mailing list you complained about, but there it is. Sorry about that. Dalphenia isn’t using a mass mailer, instead lots of CC’s, so you’re probably going to be getting anguished replies for weeks.
I am a little curious to find out how your journey as a stateless person is going. I think it won’t work for people like us, because our governments want us gone. It is a form of state-to-person warfare that we’re up against. So long as we’re alive, citizens or not, we are potential liabilities because the program we’re up against could be exposed and we would be claimants.
Basically, think of MKULTRA (which I’m sure is one of the atrocities you left the US over), mix in some COINTELPRO for flavoring, add military-grade energy/acoustic weaponry and surveillance, and you might have some idea of what we’re going through.
My web site has some info. You can probably read through the official, targets-eyes-only, section on understanding what we’re up against without rolling your eyes in disbelief; you sound like you’re familiar with a lot of this stuff.
Jeremy