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The questions folks have about what I’ve done in renouncing my US citizenship and becoming intentionally stateless seem endless sometimes.
It seems that what information is out there in the public sphere doesn’t lead many to a clear picture of the legal reality of things. I guess I’m partly here to help clear some of that up.
A while back I found an article at nowpublic.com by Alvarez Galloso (“Renunciation of US Citizenship Is Not A Joke“) on the topic, which contained an error. In the comments, I pointed out the error, and then forgot about the article.
But I happened upon it again recently, and added a bit more, which I repeat here now.
Mike Gogulski at 17:15 on September 25th, 2008
As a bit of a student on exactly this matter, I must nitpick:
The individual must also make a trip outside of the United States of America to see if the country where he or she wants to become a citizen of will accept him or her
Untrue, and conflates unrelated issues.
First, yes, they must make a trip outside the US. The reason for this is that the law requires the renunciant have demonstrated intent to no longer reside in the US, which excludes renunciation on US territory. But the potential renunciant may or may not have the intent to become a citizen of the country where they renounce their citizenship, and/or may or may not have an intent to become a citizen of some other country. As far as the operation of the legal/administrative process goes, from what I have seen the present or prospective future citizenship of the renunciant is not an issue for consideration by the State Department, unless a broad administrative discretion is applied. Legal residence is a different matter, and can indeed lead to trouble if not addressed properly.
Additionally, many nations are signatories to UN-backed treaties on refugees and stateless persons which provide varying levels of protections to stateless persons found on their territories, at least if they have lawful residence, the most generous of which recognize nearly all of the same rights for them as for citizens. The “acceptance”, at least in theory, is automatic, though there are places in the laws as implemented out there which use the word “may” in places where the seeker of state-recognized status might rather see the word “shall” in relation to the government’s duties. And there’s always that administrative discretion to contend with, too.
The renunciant can certainly make the inquiries and do the research necessary to find out the requirements for becoming a citizen of another country in advance, and without leaving home.
Mr. Galloso replied:
AlvarezGalloso at 18:49 on September 25th, 2008
In this segment, you may be right. Thanks for adding to the discussion.
And I followed up:
Mike Gogulski at 04:48 on May 14th, 2009
Just to follow up, I stand very strongly by my words above!
I renounced my US citizenship on 8 December 2008 in Bratislava, Slovakia. Later, I received a Certificate of Loss of Nationality, and then later applied for and was issued a 1954 Convention Travel Document, a passport-like thing for stateless persons, by the Slovak Ministry of Interior.
Additional information for the would-be renunciant, as well as my own story and radical politics, can be found at my site.