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		<title>By: Mike Gogulski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Gogulski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 13:46:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lynx,

Without agreeing with Kropotkin or admitting the communal-property ideal, I do recognize that society is necessary as you describe.

What I hold to be collectivism is a moral outlook which subordinates the individual to the group. I hold the liberty of the individual as the greater value.</description>
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<p>Without agreeing with Kropotkin or admitting the communal-property ideal, I do recognize that society is necessary as you describe.</p>
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		<title>By: lynx</title>
		<link>http://www.nostate.com/221/damn-your-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-764</link>
		<dc:creator>lynx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 01:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you had me right up to &quot;Damn your culture when it sings the praises of collectivism.&quot;

if by &quot;collectivism&quot; you mean the recognition of the fact that no human being can own the earth - or any part of it -  because none of us created it and that the common heritage of humanity (as kropotkin put it) belongs to all of humanity, then damn you for rejecting collectivism.

and if you&#039;re using &quot;collectivism&quot; as a catch-all term for authoritarianism then damn you for your sloppy and misleading definitions.

we are social beings, just as the group (collective) is nothing without individual self-actualization, individuals are incapable of self-actualizing in isolation.  Collectivism and individualism are not opposed, they are two halves of the same process.

otherwise,  I&#039;m with you.</description>
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<p>if by &#8220;collectivism&#8221; you mean the recognition of the fact that no human being can own the earth &#8211; or any part of it &#8211;  because none of us created it and that the common heritage of humanity (as kropotkin put it) belongs to all of humanity, then damn you for rejecting collectivism.</p>
<p>and if you&#8217;re using &#8220;collectivism&#8221; as a catch-all term for authoritarianism then damn you for your sloppy and misleading definitions.</p>
<p>we are social beings, just as the group (collective) is nothing without individual self-actualization, individuals are incapable of self-actualizing in isolation.  Collectivism and individualism are not opposed, they are two halves of the same process.</p>
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		<title>By: andar909</title>
		<link>http://www.nostate.com/221/damn-your-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-300</link>
		<dc:creator>andar909</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 23:45:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi, andar here, i just read your post.  i like very much.  agree to you, sir.</description>
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