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	<title>Comments on: This battle is lost; the war for liberty moves elsewhere</title>
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		<title>By: George Donnelly</title>
		<link>http://www.nostate.com/2219/this-battle-is-lost-the-war-for-liberty-moves-elsewhere/comment-page-1/#comment-2581</link>
		<dc:creator>George Donnelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 22:48:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could not agree more.</description>
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		<title>By: Seth</title>
		<link>http://www.nostate.com/2219/this-battle-is-lost-the-war-for-liberty-moves-elsewhere/comment-page-1/#comment-2561</link>
		<dc:creator>Seth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 10:25:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just still have my ning.com account, but just removed myself from http://bureaucrashsocial.ning.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I just still have my ning.com account, but just removed myself from <a href="http://bureaucrashsocial.ning.com/" rel="nofollow">http://bureaucrashsocial.ning.com/</a><!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: NickyTheHeel</title>
		<link>http://www.nostate.com/2219/this-battle-is-lost-the-war-for-liberty-moves-elsewhere/comment-page-1/#comment-2553</link>
		<dc:creator>NickyTheHeel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 08:09:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have deleted my bcs account and would not go back, even if Xaq were made CinC today.  CEI is my foe.</description>
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		<title>By: Seth</title>
		<link>http://www.nostate.com/2219/this-battle-is-lost-the-war-for-liberty-moves-elsewhere/comment-page-1/#comment-2547</link>
		<dc:creator>Seth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 22:29:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, it seems like a more productive use of our energies, and more consistent with the principles of Voluntaryism, to leave and build a new community, rather than fight to &quot;take back&quot; what we never had control over in the first place.

There are important lessons to be learned here for everyone:  

Next time you join a online community, attempt to determine who owns or controls it.

Who really has thet final say, who has the &quot;keys&quot; to the kingdom, the web site, the accounts? Who controls the community data, and the servers where that data lives?   How easy will it be to export the discussion archives move them elsewhere if the need arises in the future?</description>
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<p>There are important lessons to be learned here for everyone:  </p>
<p>Next time you join a online community, attempt to determine who owns or controls it.</p>
<p>Who really has thet final say, who has the &#8220;keys&#8221; to the kingdom, the web site, the accounts? Who controls the community data, and the servers where that data lives?   How easy will it be to export the discussion archives move them elsewhere if the need arises in the future?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Bermuda Joe</title>
		<link>http://www.nostate.com/2219/this-battle-is-lost-the-war-for-liberty-moves-elsewhere/comment-page-1/#comment-2546</link>
		<dc:creator>Bermuda Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 21:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From what I see, the political action in the fsp has already been consumed by the right. The NH Libertarian alliance takes orders from republican tax group CNHT. Political activism is hopeless</description>
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