A question for social democrats and democratic socialists

7 June 2009 by Mike Gogulski
Posted in economics, mind control, people | 7 Comments »

Since it seems you believe that the privileged state apparatus is necessary to human well-being and progress, and that you must therefore also support the paying of taxes and pay them yourselves, why not pay more?

Why assume that the amount you’re being assessed really does represent your fair share?

And if that makes sense, why not pay it forward?

And if that makes sense, why not pay it forward?

If the state is so good at doing the things it does, why not give it more of your income, your wealth and your labor?

Next time a tax reduction comes around, keep paying at the old rate.

When there’s a chance to show solidarity on your income tax or VAT returns, do so by adding a few extra percent on top.

Quit taking exemptions, deductions and credits.

When you’re going to pay for a meal at a restaurant, give the waitperson a few extra of the local currency unit and explain that it’s not a tip, but that you’d like it to be sent to the treasury.

Try those things and see how they feel.

And if you’re not willing to, you really ought to be ready to explain why not.

  1. 7 Responses to “A question for social democrats and democratic socialists”

  2. By Miko on 8 June 2009

    It’s because while they’re paying far more than their fair share, people making what they make plus some small amount more are drastically underpaying.

  3. By smally on 8 June 2009

    I don’t think this question is going to be much of a challenge to statists who already believe taxation is justified. They believe voluntary contributions will never be sufficient to fund the public goods necessary for a just/equitable/whatever society. Similarly, any extra they contribute voluntarily will make no difference at the margin, so they can consistently say they’d be happy to pay more tax but only if everyone else does, too. Otherwise, what’s the point?

  4. By b-psycho on 8 June 2009

    What I’ve never got about them is that they spew the “taxes are GOOD!” crap, and then acknowledge the various things done with taxes that are elephant-shit-obvious Bad. If they really believed the whole myth of centralized “representative democracy” & followed it to the letter, then anything that was politically agreed to would be The Will Of The People and their criticism would be automatically void.

  5. By arcady on 8 June 2009

    I don’t think most people actually think of taxes as “good”, but more of a “necessary evil” to support the various good things that the government does, at the price of taking away some of your money and also supporting some bad things that the government also does. The set tax rate, in effect, specifies the collective determination of the extent to which the evil is necessary. It’s a very different way of thinking from your own, but hey, that’s what makes you a radical.

  6. By Dan on 10 June 2009

    I’ve always loved this argument because it’s hard to refute. If I believed the state was the best option for my money, I WOULD overpay my taxes. Anyone who advocates that one must pay for the “better of society” should pitch in more than is just required.

    As it is, I see 1000’s of places where my money is better spent. 🙂

  7. By Aaron Kinney on 10 June 2009

    Look at this genius:

  8. By Aaron Kinney on 10 June 2009

    The logical conclusion of the democratic socialist is:
    taxes = good
    more taxes > less taxes
    paying 100% tax > paying 99% tax

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