Comments on: A question for social democrats and democratic socialists http://www.nostate.com/2240/a-question-for-social-democrats-and-democratic-socialists/ ACCESS ALL AREAS Thu, 09 Feb 2012 09:39:04 +0000 hourly 1 By: Aaron Kinneyhttp://www.nostate.com/2240/a-question-for-social-democrats-and-democratic-socialists/comment-page-1/#comment-2586 Aaron Kinney Wed, 10 Jun 2009 19:54:14 +0000 http://www.nostate.com/?p=2240#comment-2586 The logical conclusion of the democratic socialist is: taxes = good more taxes > less taxes paying 100% tax > paying 99% tax The logical conclusion of the democratic socialist is:
taxes = good
more taxes > less taxes
paying 100% tax > paying 99% tax

]]> By: Aaron Kinneyhttp://www.nostate.com/2240/a-question-for-social-democrats-and-democratic-socialists/comment-page-1/#comment-2585 Aaron Kinney Wed, 10 Jun 2009 19:31:05 +0000 http://www.nostate.com/?p=2240#comment-2585 Look at this genius: http://openthevein.blogspot.com/2009/06/raise-my-taxes.html Look at this genius:

http://openthevein.blogspot.com/2009/06/raise-my-taxes.html

]]> By: Danhttp://www.nostate.com/2240/a-question-for-social-democrats-and-democratic-socialists/comment-page-1/#comment-2582 Dan Tue, 09 Jun 2009 23:41:18 +0000 http://www.nostate.com/?p=2240#comment-2582 I've always loved this argument because it's hard to refute. If I believed the state was the best option for my money, I WOULD overpay my taxes. Anyone who advocates that one must pay for the "better of society" should pitch in more than is just required. As it is, I see 1000's of places where my money is better spent. :) I’ve always loved this argument because it’s hard to refute. If I believed the state was the best option for my money, I WOULD overpay my taxes. Anyone who advocates that one must pay for the “better of society” should pitch in more than is just required.

As it is, I see 1000′s of places where my money is better spent. :)

]]> By: arcadyhttp://www.nostate.com/2240/a-question-for-social-democrats-and-democratic-socialists/comment-page-1/#comment-2570 arcady Mon, 08 Jun 2009 19:18:22 +0000 http://www.nostate.com/?p=2240#comment-2570 I don't think most people actually think of taxes as "good", but more of a "necessary evil" to support the various good things that the government does, at the price of taking away some of your money and also supporting some bad things that the government also does. The set tax rate, in effect, specifies the collective determination of the extent to which the evil is necessary. It's a very different way of thinking from your own, but hey, that's what makes you a radical. I don’t think most people actually think of taxes as “good”, but more of a “necessary evil” to support the various good things that the government does, at the price of taking away some of your money and also supporting some bad things that the government also does. The set tax rate, in effect, specifies the collective determination of the extent to which the evil is necessary. It’s a very different way of thinking from your own, but hey, that’s what makes you a radical.

]]> By: b-psychohttp://www.nostate.com/2240/a-question-for-social-democrats-and-democratic-socialists/comment-page-1/#comment-2569 b-psycho Mon, 08 Jun 2009 16:52:54 +0000 http://www.nostate.com/?p=2240#comment-2569 What I've never got about them is that they spew the "taxes are GOOD!" crap, and then acknowledge the various things done with taxes that are elephant-shit-obvious Bad. If they really believed the whole myth of centralized "representative democracy" & followed it to the letter, then anything that was politically agreed to would be The Will Of The People and their criticism would be automatically void. What I’ve never got about them is that they spew the “taxes are GOOD!” crap, and then acknowledge the various things done with taxes that are elephant-shit-obvious Bad. If they really believed the whole myth of centralized “representative democracy” & followed it to the letter, then anything that was politically agreed to would be The Will Of The People and their criticism would be automatically void.

]]> By: smallyhttp://www.nostate.com/2240/a-question-for-social-democrats-and-democratic-socialists/comment-page-1/#comment-2560 smally Mon, 08 Jun 2009 07:23:13 +0000 http://www.nostate.com/?p=2240#comment-2560 I don't think this question is going to be much of a challenge to statists who already believe taxation is justified. They believe voluntary contributions will never be sufficient to fund the public goods necessary for a just/equitable/whatever society. Similarly, any extra they contribute voluntarily will make no difference at the margin, so they can consistently say they'd be happy to pay more tax but only if everyone else does, too. Otherwise, what's the point? I don’t think this question is going to be much of a challenge to statists who already believe taxation is justified. They believe voluntary contributions will never be sufficient to fund the public goods necessary for a just/equitable/whatever society. Similarly, any extra they contribute voluntarily will make no difference at the margin, so they can consistently say they’d be happy to pay more tax but only if everyone else does, too. Otherwise, what’s the point?

]]> By: Mikohttp://www.nostate.com/2240/a-question-for-social-democrats-and-democratic-socialists/comment-page-1/#comment-2557 Miko Sun, 07 Jun 2009 23:24:29 +0000 http://www.nostate.com/?p=2240#comment-2557 It's because while they're paying far more than their fair share, people making what they make plus some small amount more are drastically underpaying. It’s because while they’re paying far more than their fair share, people making what they make plus some small amount more are drastically underpaying.

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