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> <channel><title>nostate.com&#187; Lee Doren</title> <atom:link href="http://www.nostate.com/tag/lee-doren/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.nostate.com</link> <description>ACCESS ALL AREAS</description> <lastBuildDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 10:00:01 +0000</lastBuildDate> <language>en</language> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>Dear B*reaucrash: I quit</title><link>http://www.nostate.com/2485/dear-breaucrash-i-quit/</link> <comments>http://www.nostate.com/2485/dear-breaucrash-i-quit/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 11:37:05 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>Mike Gogulski</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[activism]]></category> <category><![CDATA[diary]]></category> <category><![CDATA[blog]]></category> <category><![CDATA[fr33agents]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Free Agents Network]]></category> <category><![CDATA[freedom]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Freedom Blogs]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Lee Doren]]></category> <category><![CDATA[liberty]]></category> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.nostate.com/?p=2485</guid> <description><![CDATA[[Cross-posted from the B*reaucrash Social Forum since it may disappear when I delete my account in a minute] Free Agents Network is up and running, and I&#8217;m coordinating the tech aspects of things for the group, at least initially. The new social network is in place, too, and growing rapidly. It&#8217;s time for me to [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[Cross-posted from the <a
rel="nofollow" href="http://social.bureaucrash.com/forum/topics/dear-bureaucrash-i-quit/">B*reaucrash Social Forum</a> since it may disappear when I delete my account in a minute]</p><p><a
href="http://www.fr33agents.com/">Free Agents Network</a> is up and running, and I&#8217;m coordinating the tech aspects of things for the group, at least initially. The <a
href="http://social.fr33agents.com/">new social network</a> is in place, too, and growing rapidly.</p><p>It&#8217;s time for me to cut ties with B*reaucrash, so after posting this message I&#8217;m deleting my profile here. Interested parties are welcome to join me and friend me at <a
href="http://social.fr33agents.com/">social.fr33agents.com</a>. You&#8217;re also welcome to follow me at my main site, <a
href="http://www.nostate.com/">nostate.com</a>, and if you&#8217;re interested in becoming a blogger for liberty yourself, take a look at the new thing I just launched, <a
href="http://www.freedom-blogs.com/">Freedom Blogs</a>.</p><p>While I, personally, have lost faith, I do wish all those who remain here the greatest success in using B*reaucrash as a vehicle for the advancement of liberty. Liberty now, liberty everywhere, liberty for everyone, liberty forever.</p><p>Until we meet again&#8230;.</p> <br
/>Tags: <a
href="http://www.nostate.com/tag/blog/" title="blog" rel="tag">blog</a>, <a
href="http://www.nostate.com/tag/fr33agents/" title="fr33agents" rel="tag">fr33agents</a>, <a
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/> ]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://www.nostate.com/2485/dear-breaucrash-i-quit/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>0</slash:comments> </item> <item><title>The Free Agents Network</title><link>http://www.nostate.com/2320/the-free-agents-network/</link> <comments>http://www.nostate.com/2320/the-free-agents-network/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 23:44:47 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>Mike Gogulski</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[activism]]></category> <category><![CDATA[fr33agents]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Free Agents Network]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Jason Talley]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Lee Doren]]></category> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.nostate.com/?p=2320</guid> <description><![CDATA[So, two and a half weeks after quasi-neocon Lee Doren took over at B*reaucrash, the Free Agents Network had its official launch yesterday, with Jason Talley&#8217;s fr33agents.com domain being re-pointed to the new website. And I just put up a post over there introducing the Fr33 Tech team, which I find myself, er, leading, or [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, two and a half weeks after quasi-neocon Lee Doren took over at B*reaucrash, the Free Agents Network had its official launch yesterday, with Jason Talley&#8217;s fr33agents.com domain being re-pointed to the <a
href="http://www.fr33agents.com/">new website</a>.</p><p>And I just put up a post over there <a
href="http://www.fr33agents.com/65/introducing-the-fr33-tech-team-and-pardon-our-dust/">introducing the Fr33 Tech team</a>, which I find myself, er, leading, or something.</p><p>If it&#8217;s quiet around here, you can bet that I&#8217;m busy over there, largely behind the scenes.</p> <br
/>Tags: <a
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href="http://www.nostate.com/tag/free-agents-network/" title="Free Agents Network" rel="tag">Free Agents Network</a>, <a
href="http://www.nostate.com/tag/jason-talley/" title="Jason Talley" rel="tag">Jason Talley</a>, <a
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/> ]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://www.nostate.com/2320/the-free-agents-network/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>3</slash:comments> </item> <item><title>This battle is lost; the war for liberty moves elsewhere</title><link>http://www.nostate.com/2219/this-battle-is-lost-the-war-for-liberty-moves-elsewhere/</link> <comments>http://www.nostate.com/2219/this-battle-is-lost-the-war-for-liberty-moves-elsewhere/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 16:57:03 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>Mike Gogulski</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[war]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Lee Doren]]></category> <category><![CDATA[liberty]]></category> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.nostate.com/?p=2219</guid> <description><![CDATA[In The Art of War, Sun Tzu says: When you engage in actual fighting, if victory is long in coming, then men&#8217;s weapons will grow dull and their ardor will be damped. If you lay siege to a town, you will exhaust your strength. The appointment of Lee Doren as Crasher-in-Chief, his actions since and [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In <em><a
href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1599869772/ref=nosim/nostatecom-20">The Art of War</a></em>, Sun Tzu says:</p><p
style="padding-left: 30px;"><em>When you engage in actual fighting, if victory is long in coming, then men&#8217;s weapons will grow dull and their ardor will be damped. If you lay siege to a town, you will exhaust your strength.</em></p><p>The appointment of Lee Doren as Crasher-in-Chief, his actions since and CEI&#8217;s refusal to remove him have demonstrated clearly that Bureaucrash is no longer a place for liberty.</p><div
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class="size-full wp-image-2223" title="the-art-of-war1" src="http://www.nostate.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/the-art-of-war1.jpg" alt="The Art of War" width="136" height="208" /></a><p
class="wp-caption-text">The Art of War</p></div><p>Some of us have laid siege, in an attempt to recapture what we felt we had lost. Drawing back to a broader perspective, though, we must realize that we never <em>had</em> Bureaucrash, as evidenced by how easily it has been corrupted, and thus we have lost nothing.</p><p>Let us no longer lay siege and waste our energies on a hopeless cause.</p><p>Let us instead go out to the other places which have been and which are being established to foster the cause of authentic liberty. Let us keep our weapons sharp, our ardor high, and let us build community and strength to support the broader war.</p><p>And may Bureaucrash rust in pieces.</p><p>PS: Goodbye, Bureaucrash. My account will remain until deleted, but I will no longer participate there.</p> <br
/>Tags: <a
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/> ]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://www.nostate.com/2219/this-battle-is-lost-the-war-for-liberty-moves-elsewhere/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>5</slash:comments> </item> <item><title>The Lee Doren question</title><link>http://www.nostate.com/2159/the-lee-doren-question/</link> <comments>http://www.nostate.com/2159/the-lee-doren-question/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 03:48:16 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>Mike Gogulski</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[activism]]></category> <category><![CDATA[people]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Competitive Enterprise Institute]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Lee Doren]]></category> <category><![CDATA[libertarian]]></category> <category><![CDATA[liberty]]></category> <category><![CDATA[strategy]]></category> <category><![CDATA[think-tank]]></category> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.nostate.com/?p=2159</guid> <description><![CDATA[In reply to a message from Fred Smith, President and Founder of the Competitive Enterprise Institute, which owns Bureaucrash: (original message follows, as it is posted within the walled garden of Bureaucrash Social, at my profile there) Dear Fred, Thanks a lot for writing to me, and elucidating some of the strategic thinking going on [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to a <a
rel="nofollow" href="http://social.bureaucrash.com/profile/MikeGogulski#chatter-2310103:Comment:106636">message</a> from <a
rel="nofollow" href="http://cei.org/people/fred-l-smith-jr">Fred Smith</a>, President and Founder of the <a
rel="nofollow" href="http://cei.org/">Competitive Enterprise Institute</a>, which owns <a
rel="nofollow" href="http://www.bureaucrash.com/">Bureaucrash</a>:</p><p>(original message follows, as it is posted within the walled garden of <a
rel="nofollow" href="http://social.bureaucrash.com/">Bureaucrash Social</a>, at my profile there)</p><p>Dear Fred,</p><p>Thanks a lot for writing to me, and elucidating some of the strategic thinking going on at CEI that has not been directly accessible to crashers.</p><p>As to whether or not CEI is being true to its values, I cannot know. I am personally well acquainted with neither the organization, its people nor its strategy, just, rather, with the Bureaucrash community, and that, even, for only the past year.</p><p>I agree completely that libertarianism is a big tent &#8212; one, indeed, I wish were better populated. Within that big tent, however, you will find me and some others propping up a radical pole which emerges both from what our definitions of liberty are as well as a devotion to consistency. Standing, as it were, at the back of that tent, some of us are often leery of folks who seem to come blundering through the door out of left field.</p><p>I agree with you very strongly that property rights, contract and the rule of law (with definitional qualifications not worth mentioning) are essential to a free society. I personally will differ, perhaps fundamentally, with you, however, on the notion that America is &#8220;one of the best hopes&#8221; for realizing that today, if it ever was. America is not exceptional except in the mythology promulgated by its partisans, with the reservation that it <em>is</em>, in fact, quite exceptional to hundreds of millions of people around the world &#8212; exceptionally evil.</p><p>The broader strategic issue you raise is one of considerable import to an organization such as yours. Funds must be allocated, campaigns conducted, activity focused, and all of that done in such a way as to convince the organization&#8217;s members, funders and supporters that effort is being expended in the best way possible. That there are people passionately committed, in the name of liberty, to doing these things &#8212; at CEI and elsewhere &#8212; is cause for celebration.</p><p>What seems to emerge here, though, is that Bureaucrash has over its history coalesced and grown a group of energetic activists coming from all over the libertarian landscape. Perhaps the most influential of these have tended toward identification less with the strategic concerns of the day than with devotion to a radical consistency: liberty, now, for all, forever, without compromise.</p><p>The appointment of Lee Doren as Crasher-in-Chief, in my mind, is problematic for two reasons: ideology and approach. Large chunks of Lee&#8217;s expressed ideology are in direct conflict with that of large segments of Bureaucrash&#8217;s most influential members, among whom I seem to surprisingly find myself by virtue of your addressing this message to me. Additionally, Lee&#8217;s approach has caused immediate distrust among those members of his person, his ideology and his plans while casting shadows over CEI&#8217;s devotion to liberty and its intent in hiring him.</p><p>It remains for you and your colleagues to determine whether or not Lee can effectively continue the freedom activism which has gone on at, been nurtured by and been spun off from the Bureaucrash community &#8212; or, indeed, whether that concern is germane to CEI&#8217;s broader strategic goals. Since you are no doubt aware of the majority negative reaction to the appointment, I will simply add my own voice as an unambiguous footnote:</p><p>Remove Lee Doren as Crasher-in-Chief. He will not succeed in this role.</p><p>Best regards,<br
/> Mike Gogulski<br
/> Bratislava, Slovakia</p><p><br
class="spacer_" /></p><p>Dear Mike:</p><p>Libertarianism and (more broadly) classical liberalism or economic/market liberlaism is a large tent. You&#8217;ll have to make your own judgments as to whether CEI has (or has not) been true to its values but (in my perhaps biased view) I do believe we have.</p><p>What are those principles? In my view, the core element is that civilization is best advanced by the co-evolution of freedom and the instittuions that ensure the responsible use of that freedom. Property rights (definable, defensible and divestible), enforceable voluntary agreements and (more generally) the rule of law are the core pillars on which free societies are built. Civilization can be viewed as the gradual emergence of these institutons of liberty which permit more of the peoples of the world to engage in voluntary exchange, to advance their own dreams. America &#8211; with its many drawbacks, more today than ever &#8212; remains one of the best hopes of that process continuing. Thus, the need to mount an inclusive outreach effort to develop the forces that might best combat these trends.</p><p>The values of liberty have long been under attack but the severity of that attack has massively increased in recent years as statists have taken advantage of the financial collapse (see Bob Higgs, Crisis and Leviathan for earlier examples) to gain power. Liberty is indivisble but the two main components are economic and civil liberties &#8211; sometimes one is more under attack, sometimes the other. My judgment (others may disagree) is that today, the battleground is predominantly (for the issues that CEI was formed to address) lie in the nationalization of great sectors of the American economy, the rapid growth of the entitlement redistributionist state (non-sustainable, of course), and the rapid shift from the &#8220;honest&#8221; socialism of the past to the &#8220;regulatory&#8221; (and much more difficult to combat) socialism of today. Thus, CEI &#8211; and i believe &#8211; Bureaucrash need to address those concerns.</p><p>Is this wrong?</p><p>Fred Smith</p> <br
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