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> <channel><title>nostate.com&#187; theft</title> <atom:link href="http://www.nostate.com/tag/theft/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.nostate.com</link> <description>ACCESS ALL AREAS</description> <lastBuildDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 16:06:00 +0000</lastBuildDate> <language>en</language> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>Liberty Camp question: Are you a criminal?</title><link>http://www.nostate.com/2544/liberty-camp-question-are-you-a-criminal/</link> <comments>http://www.nostate.com/2544/liberty-camp-question-are-you-a-criminal/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:27:33 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>Mike Gogulski</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[crime]]></category> <category><![CDATA[clown suit]]></category> <category><![CDATA[community]]></category> <category><![CDATA[defense]]></category> <category><![CDATA[liberty]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Liberty Camp]]></category> <category><![CDATA[market]]></category> <category><![CDATA[mp3]]></category> <category><![CDATA[penalty]]></category> <category><![CDATA[punishment]]></category> <category><![CDATA[theft]]></category> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.nostate.com/?p=2544</guid> <description><![CDATA[Today I discussed crime and punishment in my groups, pointing out the difference between moral crimes and crimes in law, and then offering also the suggestion that a change from a punishment model of crime control to one based around restitution is possible, desirable and likely to emerge in a truly free market. Right near [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today I discussed crime and punishment in my groups, pointing out the difference between moral crimes and crimes in law, and then offering also the suggestion that a change from a punishment model of crime control to one based around restitution is possible, desirable and likely to emerge in a truly free market.</p><p>Right near the beginning of the discussion, I asked group members to indicate if they were criminals, by raising their hands, and led off by sticking mine up first.</p><p>Eventually, and rather quickly, every hand went up.</p><p>There is honor among thieves, though the &#8220;thievery&#8221; in play here is of the legal kind, not the moral kind (think: mp3). This represents and opportunity for building <em>community</em> among libertarians, which is largely ignored by the mainstream libertarian movement.</p><p>Camp attendees who are following my blog are encouraged to read &#8220;<a
href="http://www.nostate.com/116/the-penalty-is-always-death/">The penalty is always death</a>&#8221; (which I presented in abbreviated form in several sessions anyway), and the linked &#8220;<a
href="http://www.nostate.com/37/the-clown-suit-defense-and-the-excuses-of-symbols/">Clown suit defense</a>&#8221; articles.</p> <br
/>Tags: <a
href="http://www.nostate.com/tag/clown-suit/" title="clown suit" rel="tag">clown suit</a>, <a
href="http://www.nostate.com/tag/community/" title="community" rel="tag">community</a>, <a
href="http://www.nostate.com/tag/defense/" title="defense" rel="tag">defense</a>, <a
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href="http://www.nostate.com/tag/liberty-camp/" title="Liberty Camp" rel="tag">Liberty Camp</a>, <a
href="http://www.nostate.com/tag/market/" title="market" rel="tag">market</a>, <a
href="http://www.nostate.com/tag/mp3/" title="mp3" rel="tag">mp3</a>, <a
href="http://www.nostate.com/tag/penalty/" title="penalty" rel="tag">penalty</a>, <a
href="http://www.nostate.com/tag/punishment/" title="punishment" rel="tag">punishment</a>, <a
href="http://www.nostate.com/tag/theft/" title="theft" rel="tag">theft</a><br
/> ]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://www.nostate.com/2544/liberty-camp-question-are-you-a-criminal/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>5</slash:comments> </item> <item><title>Repost: Tax is Theft (and what to do about it) podcast</title><link>http://www.nostate.com/2370/repost-tax-is-theft-and-what-to-do-about-it-podcast/</link> <comments>http://www.nostate.com/2370/repost-tax-is-theft-and-what-to-do-about-it-podcast/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 10:24:59 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>Mike Gogulski</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[podcasts]]></category> <category><![CDATA[libertarian]]></category> <category><![CDATA[liberty]]></category> <category><![CDATA[mp3]]></category> <category><![CDATA[podcast]]></category> <category><![CDATA[robbery]]></category> <category><![CDATA[SEK3]]></category> <category><![CDATA[tax]]></category> <category><![CDATA[theft]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Wally Conger]]></category> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.nostate.com/?p=2370</guid> <description><![CDATA[Reposting this for the sake of getting it into my podcast feed properly. This brochure was originally written and published for the Movement of the Libertarian Left (MLL) by the late Samuel Edward Konkin III. This new edition has been minimally edited by Wally Conger. Tags: libertarian, liberty, mp3, podcast, robbery, SEK3, tax, theft, Wally [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reposting this for the sake of getting it into my podcast feed properly.</p><p><a
href="../../audio/tax_is_theft/TaxIsTheft.pdf">This brochure</a> was originally written and published for the Movement of the Libertarian Left (MLL) by the late Samuel Edward Konkin III. This new edition has been minimally edited by <a
href="http://www.wallyconger.com/">Wally Conger</a>.</p> <br
/>Tags: <a
href="http://www.nostate.com/tag/libertarian/" title="libertarian" rel="tag">libertarian</a>, <a
href="http://www.nostate.com/tag/liberty/" title="liberty" rel="tag">liberty</a>, <a
href="http://www.nostate.com/tag/mp3/" title="mp3" rel="tag">mp3</a>, <a
href="http://www.nostate.com/tag/podcast/" title="podcast" rel="tag">podcast</a>, <a
href="http://www.nostate.com/tag/robbery/" title="robbery" rel="tag">robbery</a>, <a
href="http://www.nostate.com/tag/sek3/" title="SEK3" rel="tag">SEK3</a>, <a
href="http://www.nostate.com/tag/tax/" title="tax" rel="tag">tax</a>, <a
href="http://www.nostate.com/tag/theft/" title="theft" rel="tag">theft</a>, <a
href="http://www.nostate.com/tag/wally-conger/" title="Wally Conger" rel="tag">Wally Conger</a><br
/> ]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://www.nostate.com/2370/repost-tax-is-theft-and-what-to-do-about-it-podcast/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>0</slash:comments> <enclosure
url="http://www.nostate.com/audio/tax_is_theft/tax_is_theft.mp3" length="6417012" type="audio/mpeg" /> </item> <item><title>Tax is Theft! &#8211; mp3 podcast</title><link>http://www.nostate.com/2300/tax-is-theft-mp3-podcast/</link> <comments>http://www.nostate.com/2300/tax-is-theft-mp3-podcast/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 08:15:43 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>Mike Gogulski</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[podcasts]]></category> <category><![CDATA[libertarian]]></category> <category><![CDATA[liberty]]></category> <category><![CDATA[mp3]]></category> <category><![CDATA[podcast]]></category> <category><![CDATA[robbery]]></category> <category><![CDATA[SEK3]]></category> <category><![CDATA[tax]]></category> <category><![CDATA[theft]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Wally Conger]]></category> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.nostate.com/?p=2300</guid> <description><![CDATA[Tax is Theft! (and what to do about it) This brochure was originally written and published for the Movement of the Libertarian Left (MLL) by the late Samuel Edward Konkin III. This new edition has been minimally edited by Wally Conger. Voiced by Mike Gogulski. MP3, 6m41s, 6.1MB. Download Tags: libertarian, liberty, mp3, podcast, robbery, [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tax is Theft! (and what to do about it)</p><p><a
href="http://www.nostate.com/audio/tax_is_theft/TaxIsTheft.pdf">This brochure</a> was originally written and published for the Movement of the Libertarian Left (MLL) by the late Samuel Edward Konkin III. This new edition has been minimally edited by <a
href="http://www.wallyconger.com/">Wally Conger</a>.</p><div
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class="wp-caption-text">Tax is Theft! (and what to do about it)</p></div><p>Voiced by Mike Gogulski.</p><p>MP3, 6m41s, 6.1MB.</p><p><a
href="http://www.nostate.com/audio/tax_is_theft/tax_is_theft.mp3">Download</a></p> <br
/>Tags: <a
href="http://www.nostate.com/tag/libertarian/" title="libertarian" rel="tag">libertarian</a>, <a
href="http://www.nostate.com/tag/liberty/" title="liberty" rel="tag">liberty</a>, <a
href="http://www.nostate.com/tag/mp3/" title="mp3" rel="tag">mp3</a>, <a
href="http://www.nostate.com/tag/podcast/" title="podcast" rel="tag">podcast</a>, <a
href="http://www.nostate.com/tag/robbery/" title="robbery" rel="tag">robbery</a>, <a
href="http://www.nostate.com/tag/sek3/" title="SEK3" rel="tag">SEK3</a>, <a
href="http://www.nostate.com/tag/tax/" title="tax" rel="tag">tax</a>, <a
href="http://www.nostate.com/tag/theft/" title="theft" rel="tag">theft</a>, <a
href="http://www.nostate.com/tag/wally-conger/" title="Wally Conger" rel="tag">Wally Conger</a><br
/> ]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://www.nostate.com/2300/tax-is-theft-mp3-podcast/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>3</slash:comments> <enclosure
url="http://www.nostate.com/audio/tax_is_theft/tax_is_theft.mp3" length="6417012" type="audio/mpeg" /> </item> <item><title>&#8220;Only guilty people say they do not consent&#8221;</title><link>http://www.nostate.com/1969/only-guilty-people-say-they-do-not-consent/</link> <comments>http://www.nostate.com/1969/only-guilty-people-say-they-do-not-consent/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 06:51:46 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>Mike Gogulski</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[police]]></category> <category><![CDATA[assault]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Gangsters in Blue]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Louisiana]]></category> <category><![CDATA[paperwork]]></category> <category><![CDATA[passport]]></category> <category><![CDATA[police state]]></category> <category><![CDATA[probable cause]]></category> <category><![CDATA[taser]]></category> <category><![CDATA[theft]]></category> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.nostate.com/?p=1969</guid> <description><![CDATA[An anarchist friend who prefers to be anonymous with respect to this story called me last night, but I couldn&#8217;t answer the phone. I sent him an SMS back asking what was up, and he gave a very short reply. I tried calling him back, but his phone was dying. He&#8217;s on something of a [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An anarchist friend who prefers to be anonymous with respect to this story called me last night, but I couldn&#8217;t answer the phone. I sent him an SMS back asking what was up, and he gave a very short reply. I tried calling him back, but his phone was dying.</p><p>He&#8217;s on something of a <em>wanderjahr</em> through Greater Cascadia, northern Aztlan and nearby regions, hitchhiking and walking. Tonight I asked him, again through SMS, was had happened. Here is his story, with minimal editing, straight off my phone:</p><table
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valign="top"><td>2009.05.11 03:02</td><td>Didn&#8217;t know you had texting. Just realized cops had my ID.</td></tr><tr
valign="top"><td>2009.05.11 06:16</td><td>Basically: illegally searched and ID stolen. And cuffed and nearly tazed.</td></tr><tr
valign="top"><td>2009.05.11 06:17</td><td>Battery low</td></tr><tr
valign="top"><td>2009.05.11 06:19</td><td>Almost tazed&#8230;</td></tr><tr
valign="top"><td>2009.05.11 06:20</td><td>Battery is too low for me to talk&#8230;tomorrow maybe</td></tr><tr
valign="top"><td>2009.05.11 23:23</td><td>Yeah. I&#8217;m in Dallas now bumming around for several hours until a friend can pick me up after watching the Mavs. Trying to make my way to where JFK was shot. Cops deny having my ID, as usual.</td></tr><tr
valign="top"><td>2009.05.11 23:27</td><td>I got dropped off on interstate. I can&#8217;t be there. I was tired and it was hot so I took a nap about 20 feet from road. Some people reported me thinking I was dead. <a
rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapides_Parish">Rapides Parish</a> deputy J. Little (dispatch 124) asked for my ID. I gave it thinking they&#8217;d check for warrants and get me off interstate like usual. Meanwhile, sheriff K. Hall drove up and asked to search me. I unemotionally said that I do not consent to be searched.</td></tr><tr
valign="top"><td>2009.05.11 23:30</td><td>He said he didn&#8217;t need my consent, but I repeated myself in a flat voice. I didn&#8217;t touch either officer as they put their hands down my pocket. I asked what their cause was and they would say they either didn&#8217;t need it or would find it afterward. They tried to remove my backpack but I didn&#8217;t adjust my arms to let them. They said I was being too aggressive and pulled it off me forcefully.</td></tr><tr
valign="top"><td>2009.05.11 23:32</td><td>I continued to state that I did not consent or asked what their cause was in an unemotional voice (which was not easy by this point). The sheriff pulled a taser on me as he simultaneously insisted *I* was being aggressive. He put it directly on my heart, then shoved me to the hood where he put it to my head and then to my back.</td></tr><tr
valign="top"><td>2009.05.11 23:35</td><td>Eventually he cuffed me and still wouldn&#8217;t answer my questions about cause. Told me to sit on hood and got pissed when I did and told me to sit on ground with legs crossed. Searched my bag some. Put me in back of car as detainment. Kept searching. Found nothing which was ironic because earlier they said only guilty people say they do not consent. Also mentioned that they were good people and could do what they want. Released me and shoved both my pocket&#8217;s contents into one pocket with the wallet on top.</td></tr><tr
valign="top"><td>2009.05.11 23:38</td><td>Later that day, I realized my passport/ID wasn&#8217;t in my pocket. It couldn&#8217;t have fallen out since wallet was on top and would have fallen out first. They asked me to search my bag even though they said they put it in my pocket, wasting my time. It wasn&#8217;t in my backpack. So now I&#8217;m IDless and fucked for future cop encounters. A former cop friend said they probably tossed it to avoid paperwork.</td></tr></tbody></table><p><em>They were good people and could do what they want.</em></p><p>I&#8217;m sure the foot soldiers of the Khmer Rouge thought the same thing.</p><p>And people ask me why I left America&#8230; Ha!</p> <br
/>Tags: <a
href="http://www.nostate.com/tag/assault/" title="assault" rel="tag">assault</a>, <a
href="http://www.nostate.com/tag/gangsters-in-blue/" title="Gangsters in Blue" rel="tag">Gangsters in Blue</a>, <a
href="http://www.nostate.com/tag/louisiana/" title="Louisiana" rel="tag">Louisiana</a>, <a
href="http://www.nostate.com/tag/paperwork/" title="paperwork" rel="tag">paperwork</a>, <a
href="http://www.nostate.com/tag/passport/" title="passport" rel="tag">passport</a>, <a
href="http://www.nostate.com/tag/police-state/" title="police state" rel="tag">police state</a>, <a
href="http://www.nostate.com/tag/probable-cause/" title="probable cause" rel="tag">probable cause</a>, <a
href="http://www.nostate.com/tag/taser/" title="taser" rel="tag">taser</a>, <a
href="http://www.nostate.com/tag/theft/" title="theft" rel="tag">theft</a><br
/> ]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://www.nostate.com/1969/only-guilty-people-say-they-do-not-consent/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>10</slash:comments> </item> <item><title>Seth speaks: On military and other statist lies</title><link>http://www.nostate.com/1706/seth-speaks-on-military-and-other-statist-lies/</link> <comments>http://www.nostate.com/1706/seth-speaks-on-military-and-other-statist-lies/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2009 20:36:38 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>Mike Gogulski</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[war]]></category> <category><![CDATA[abu ghraib]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Iraq]]></category> <category><![CDATA[military]]></category> <category><![CDATA[money]]></category> <category><![CDATA[murder]]></category> <category><![CDATA[rape]]></category> <category><![CDATA[tax]]></category> <category><![CDATA[theft]]></category> <category><![CDATA[torture]]></category> <category><![CDATA[violence]]></category> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.nostate.com/?p=1706</guid> <description><![CDATA[One of my frequent commenters, Seth, left a comment in reply to another one on my ever-popular &#8220;Fuck the troops!&#8221; posting. I thought it was important enough to repost here (with minor edits), for those who aren&#8217;t diligently following the nostate.com comment feed. [W]ith a kill ratio of something upwards of 75:1, members of the [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of my frequent commenters, Seth, left a comment in reply to another one on my ever-popular &#8220;<a
href="http://www.nostate.com/77/fuck-the-troops/">Fuck the troops!</a>&#8221; posting.</p><p>I thought it was important enough to repost here (with minor edits), for those who aren&#8217;t diligently following the <a
href="http://www.nostate.com/comments/feed/">nostate.com comment feed</a>.</p><p
style="padding-left: 30px;">[W]ith a kill ratio of something upwards of 75:1, members of the U.S. [military] are doing the lion&#8217;s share of the killing [in Iraq]. It would not surprise if these criminals are also engaging in their share of rape, kidnapping and theft.  And torture  (Abu Ghraib?)</p><p
style="padding-left: 30px;">Many members of the military &#8220;are simply doing it to make money&#8221; (or college money) as they are too weak-willed and/or stupid to make an honest buck.</p><p
style="padding-left: 30px;">Instead they choose to get paid to serve an organization whose primary purpose is to threaten and, &#8220;if necessary&#8221;, carry out acts of aggressive violence against mostly hapless people caught in the crossfire between the US government and the &#8220;enemy&#8221; du jour.</p><p
style="padding-left: 30px;">Governments are always trying to redefine their crimes out of existence by taking a common criminal act and attaching a new label to it. Thus, armed robbery becomes &#8220;taxation&#8221; and kidnapping becomes &#8220;arrest&#8221;, etc.</p><p
style="padding-left: 30px;">Thinking people see through these lies. If there are people in the military that are responsible for 4 or more deaths is a single event, those people are in fact mass murderers.</p><p
style="padding-left: 30px;">Whether or not their crimes are sanctioned by the same government they are killing for is wholly immaterial. Governments themselves are the largest criminal organizations, so to expect any type of moral behavior out of these organizations is foolish at best.</p> <br
/>Tags: <a
href="http://www.nostate.com/tag/abu-ghraib/" title="abu ghraib" rel="tag">abu ghraib</a>, <a
href="http://www.nostate.com/tag/iraq/" title="Iraq" rel="tag">Iraq</a>, <a
href="http://www.nostate.com/tag/military/" title="military" rel="tag">military</a>, <a
href="http://www.nostate.com/tag/money/" title="money" rel="tag">money</a>, <a
href="http://www.nostate.com/tag/murder/" title="murder" rel="tag">murder</a>, <a
href="http://www.nostate.com/tag/rape/" title="rape" rel="tag">rape</a>, <a
href="http://www.nostate.com/tag/tax/" title="tax" rel="tag">tax</a>, <a
href="http://www.nostate.com/tag/theft/" title="theft" rel="tag">theft</a>, <a
href="http://www.nostate.com/tag/torture/" title="torture" rel="tag">torture</a>, <a
href="http://www.nostate.com/tag/violence/" title="violence" rel="tag">violence</a>, <a
href="http://www.nostate.com/tag/war/" title="war" rel="tag">war</a><br
/> ]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://www.nostate.com/1706/seth-speaks-on-military-and-other-statist-lies/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>5</slash:comments> </item> <item><title>Educating for anarchism #4 &#8212; a reply to FSK</title><link>http://www.nostate.com/1444/educating-for-anarchism-4-a-reply-to-fsk/</link> <comments>http://www.nostate.com/1444/educating-for-anarchism-4-a-reply-to-fsk/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 00:03:16 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>Mike Gogulski</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[philosophy]]></category> <category><![CDATA[anarchism]]></category> <category><![CDATA[education]]></category> <category><![CDATA[freedom]]></category> <category><![CDATA[income]]></category> <category><![CDATA[irs]]></category> <category><![CDATA[market]]></category> <category><![CDATA[money]]></category> <category><![CDATA[property]]></category> <category><![CDATA[resistance]]></category> <category><![CDATA[sex]]></category> <category><![CDATA[tax]]></category> <category><![CDATA[theft]]></category> <category><![CDATA[translation]]></category> <category><![CDATA[wage]]></category> <category><![CDATA[war]]></category> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.nostate.com/?p=1444</guid> <description><![CDATA[Fellow agorist blogger FSK late last year explored the question: &#8220;Is Participating in the State Economy Immoral?&#8220; The short answer, of course, is an emphatic &#8220;no&#8221;, unless you&#8217;re going to adopt the patently insane position that we&#8217;re all criminals for doing so, as Francois Tremblay does in saying &#8220;We are all war criminals&#8221; &#8212; a [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fellow agorist blogger FSK late last year explored the question: &#8220;<a
rel="nofollow" href="http://fskrealityguide.blogspot.com/2008/12/is-participating-in-state-economy.html">Is Participating in the State Economy Immoral?</a>&#8220;</p><p>The short answer, of course, is an emphatic &#8220;no&#8221;, unless you&#8217;re going to adopt the patently insane position that we&#8217;re all criminals for doing so, as Francois Tremblay does in saying &#8220;<a
rel="nofollow" href="http://francoistremblay.wordpress.com/2009/01/11/we-are-all-war-criminals/">We are all war criminals</a>&#8221; &#8212; a position which I will contest to my last breath.</p><p>In exploring the question, FSK links to my first &#8220;<a
href="http://www.nostate.com/181/educating-for-anarchism/">Educating for anarchism</a>&#8221; post, and elaborates on a theme that I&#8217;ve heard before &#8212; and rejected.</p><p>This post was originally going to be a reply comment to FSK&#8217;s post, but since it grew so long and was so long ago, I thought it deserved a post of its own, here:</p><p>FSK writes:</p><p
style="padding-left: 30px;"><em>I noticed <a
href="../../181/educating-for-anarchism/">this post by Mike Gogulski</a>, where he refused a job for the State. The fallacy in his reasoning is that *ANY* on-the-books work supports the State via taxes. Suppose I have two choices. I can do $10k of work directly for the State, or $10k of work in a wage slave job. Suppose my income taxation rate is 50%. In the $10k wage slave job, I contribute $5k directly to the State. Similarly, if I accept the $10k job working directly for the State, I pay $5k directly back to the State in taxes. (In some countries, income on State jobs is tax-exempt. I&#8217;m ignoring that possibility here.) If I don&#8217;t accept the $10k State job, someone else will take it, still getting paid $10k but perhaps doing marginally worse work. However, by refusing the direct State job, I am forced to accept a marginally lower salary. Overall, the net damage to the State by my refusal to work directly for the State is negligible.</em></p><p
style="padding-left: 30px;"><em>&#8220;I refuse to work directly for the State&#8221; is an attitude that only works when vastly more than 50% of the population has been convinced &#8220;The State is evil!&#8221; By that time, the State has already lost anyway. Once a vast majority of people have been convinced &#8220;The State is evil!&#8221;, then it&#8217;s already all over for the State. In the meantime, if you refuse to work directly for the State, then someone almost as qualified will gladly take your place.</em></p><p>Hello, FSK! I&#8217;m finally circling back on this post, which has been open in a browser tab since, er&#8230; last year <img
src='http://www.nostate.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> I&#8217;m just gonna reply to the bits that mentioned me.</p><p
style="padding-left: 30px;"><em>The fallacy in his </em>[i.e.: my]<em> reasoning is that *ANY* on-the-books work supports the State via taxes.</em></p><p>This is true. However, you overlook something here, though you do kindof address it later &#8212; though I have a quibble with that as well.</p><p>If I earn $10k making sex toys (something which, as far as I know, no state anywhere actually produces, nor desires), and surrender $5k of my earnings to the state, the state receives a net benefit of $5k, minus collection and enforcement costs, which may be held to be negligible.</p><p>If I earn $10k making ICBMs for the state and surrender the same $5k in income tax, the state receives a net benefit of $5k cash PLUS whatever benefit the state assigns to the missiles.</p><p>By choosing to make sex toys which do not benefit the state in any way (other than by the taxes imposed upon them) rather than missiles which benefit the state directly, I at least keep my hands off of a transaction which would create greater evil.</p><p>I put it to you that by refusing to do <em>the state&#8217;s work</em> I am creating a benefit for freedom. Certainly, in the inverse case, you would not praise me for finding a quasi-agorist method of doing work to help provide the state with ICBMs. The object of the work matters as well as the economics.</p><p>That was quibble #1. Quibble #2 is this:</p><p
style="padding-left: 30px;"><em>[I]f you refuse to work directly for the State, then someone almost as qualified will gladly take your place.</em></p><p>Arguably true, given today&#8217;s circumstances. However, in my particular case, there are only a very small number of professional translators who both speak English as their native language and who have a high level of competency in translating the Slovak language. Let&#8217;s imagine, for the sake of argument, that I have a real niche market, and that there are only ten other people in the world, including me, who can deliver the same Slovak-to-English translation job at the same level of quality as I can. My refusal takes me out of the pool of available labor, and thus the state has only 90% of the potential labor force available to it. At any given time, this tends to make getting the state&#8217;s work in translating Slovak to English more difficult, as there are fewer resources which can be applied to the task. It might also have the side effect of driving up prices among those other nine translators who are willing to work for the state. At some point, when prices are driven up high enough, the customer stops buying.</p><p>However, there is yet another benefit. When I tell one of my agency clients that I do not do any work for directly governments, that I do not do any work on non-governmental company/charity projects that are funded by governments, that I do not do any work for organizations that derive more than X% of their revenues from taxes, that I do not do any work for organizations which engage in certain objectionable statist activities, I am making a contribution toward anarchist education. I have alerted one or more people at that translation agency that there is a <em>moral</em> objection which might be raised against taking certain kinds of work.</p><p>In many cases, that message may well fall on deaf ears today. Maybe only 1 in 100 translation agency employees might have their own beliefs modified by coming into contact with mine in this way. But it will be remembered, and perhaps in the future those same people might think over the issue again, or tell a story to a colleague or a friend: &#8220;Hey, there&#8217;s this Mike guy who says &#8216;All taxes are theft!&#8217; and &#8216;I read FSK!&#8217; and won&#8217;t take certain kinds of jobs from us, isn&#8217;t that funny?&#8221; And it can spread from there.</p><p>And now, quibble #3:</p><p>There is a <em>moral</em> argument for refusing to take jobs and income from the state. All of the state&#8217;s money and property is stolen. When we freely accept known stolen property in trade, if we do not become accessories to theft ourselves we at least become facilitators of that theft, in that if we <em>refused</em> to accept unearned wealth in trade and convinced those around us to do the same, then the criminals stealing it would no longer have an incentive to do so, as they could never spend it. I, personally, do not want to be paid out of money stolen from other people through taxation. Recognizing that eliminating this entirely under the statist system may be impossible, I still hold it as <em>my own duty</em> to minimize the occurrence thereof and to encourage others to do the same.</p><p>A drop, perhaps, in an ocean of statist shit. But it&#8217;s my drop, damnit, and I&#8217;d like you to see all sides and all possibilities.</p><p>Dixie Flatline of the <a
href="http://notreason.com/">No Treason</a> blog <a
href="http://notreason.com/2008/12/28/the-troubles-of-an-anarchist-blogger/">adds additional commentary</a>, to which FSK replies in <a
rel="nofollow" href="http://fskrealityguide.blogspot.com/2009/01/example-of-pointless-state-resistance.html">An Example of Pointless State Resistance</a>. Your mileage, as always, may vary.</p> <br
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/> ]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://www.nostate.com/1444/educating-for-anarchism-4-a-reply-to-fsk/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>18</slash:comments> </item> <item><title>Identity theft</title><link>http://www.nostate.com/700/identity-theft/</link> <comments>http://www.nostate.com/700/identity-theft/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 23:33:24 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>Mike Gogulski</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[mind control]]></category> <category><![CDATA[philosophy]]></category> <category><![CDATA[documentation]]></category> <category><![CDATA[identity]]></category> <category><![CDATA[market]]></category> <category><![CDATA[nonsense]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Royce Christian]]></category> <category><![CDATA[security]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Social Security]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Sunni Maravillosa]]></category> <category><![CDATA[theft]]></category> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.nostate.com/?p=700</guid> <description><![CDATA[This is an old draft post, which I was inspired to release based on Royce Christian&#8217;s posting yesterday of &#8220;Souless? Not such a bad thing…&#8220;, which in turn references my own recent loss of &#8220;identity&#8221; vis-a-vis institutions that rely upon state-issued documents thereto. Originally it was going to be called &#8220;Steal this Identity&#8221;, releasing 100% [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an old draft post, which I was inspired to release based on Royce Christian&#8217;s posting yesterday of &#8220;<a
href="http://urbandissent.wordpress.com/2008/12/18/souless-not-such-a-bad-thing/">Souless? Not such a bad thing…</a>&#8220;, which in turn references my own recent loss of &#8220;identity&#8221; <em>vis-a-vis</em> institutions that rely upon state-issued documents thereto. Originally it was going to be called &#8220;Steal this Identity&#8221;, releasing 100% of all the ID documentation on myself I could get my hands on, perhaps something like how <a
href="http://www.two--four.net/weblog.php?id=P4240">the gentleman at Two&#8211;Four posted his Social Security Number</a> recently. <a
href="http://www.sunnimaravillosa.com/blog/3">Sunni Maravillosa</a> talked me back off that, cliff, however, and I realized there was little point to it. Still, a whole bunch of questions here without good answers and a whole lot of &#8220;yeah, but&#8230;&#8221; nonsense commonly given in response as justification for the cages we live in. Enjoy my incomplete thoughts. They stay crispy in milk!</p><p>If you&#8217;re the victim of identity theft, does that mean you lose your identity, as in &#8220;an identity is not something you have any more&#8221;? If not, what about agency? Status as a human being who ought to be subject to the same law as everyone else? Do you cease to be a person? An entity? Do your friends hold a funeral, or maybe put up posters around town, hoping that someone has been able to identify you and knows why you lost your identity?</p><p>Hopefully you answered all of these questions &#8220;no&#8221;. If you haven&#8217;t lost anything and if your situation in all those ways hasn&#8217;t changed, it can&#8217;t rightly be said that your identity was &#8220;stolen&#8221;. The identity referenced by &#8220;identity theft&#8221; is not identity of any intrinsic value (except, I believe, in certain exceptional trade situations), such that it can&#8217;t be easily replaced. It is <em>Ihre papieren, bitte</em>. True, someone can steal all you own and encumber you with debt for the rest of your life, but it&#8217;s not like you cease being who you are. Your circumstances change, you do not.</p><p>At some point during the dissolution of the institution of the state, new methods of authenticating people shall arise which are created by the market according to its needs and tolerances. Will that happen due to market initiative or in response to states ceasing to provide the identification function? What forces and acts will lead to the bulk of humanity ceasing to rely on states&#8217; methods of identification? What would a non-state identification system look like? How much would it be used, in comparison to how much intrusive provision of identity documentation we suffer today?</p> <br
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